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Post by Rakk on Oct 24, 2007 22:31:22 GMT
I forgot the actual title Cleon used oh so many years ago in January/February of '06. It was made once again by him in homage to it about eight months ago, and now, once again like that one damn zombie outside your door that just refuses to die and go away it is back.
Here tell your idea of the best tactics in any situation, preferred, realistic (your on your toilet and they are banging down your door), and even dream.
You can say where you think would be best, I am well known for my, "Oil Rig", Scropio or someone like that had the "Castle" idea (Only works in Europe where they are knee deep in castles), and then of course there was the Alcatraz idea that was popular early on, but later shot down because it would be TOO attractive to desperate survivors or infected-types.
Here debate the essentials any survivor needs to know, where to hide, how to do it, the best places, how they move, and of course how "it" spreads.
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Post by Scorpio on Oct 24, 2007 22:44:16 GMT
Well, I'm going to hand out my tactics for some variations of zombies. Since most zombie plans require the enemy to be Romero style.
Romero zombie: Slow but numerous, aim for the head. The disease is usually spread by biting.
Deadites: Demon posessed humans, vicious and tricky. Spread weapons like shotguns or automatice, hacking or smashing melee weapons, basically anything to cripple the host body. Maybe try a few holy symbols, and avoid nighttime travel
Triffids: People eating moving plants, use fire and run like hell, in close combat avoid the stinger on the tongue like protusion.
Fast zombies: Keep a spare weapon of some kind close by, something small but effective, like a stungun or knife, these things can jump ya good. Again, they bite, but also watch out for the blood and saliva they tend to drip around, it can likely pass the infection if you get it in your system.
Voodoo or mind control zombies: People in a zombie like state under commands of a higher figure. Hypnotism can't suppress the survival instinct, so take routes with obvious dangers to throw off pursuit, then practise sniping to go after the controller.
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Post by Oct-taku on Oct 24, 2007 23:13:21 GMT
I'm going to go at it from the perspective of the Zombie Survival Guide.
Scenario One: Suppose you're sitting in your pad watching the Game on ESPN. When, all of a sudden, your favorite program is interuppted by a news program telling you the dead are rising!
Solution: This is frigging unlikely...The news report, I mean. In case the media does alert you in time, take these steps.
1: Catagorize all alvailable supplies (food, water, weapons, ammo, etc. Store them upstairs (or in the attic, or on the roof).
2: Get to a secure location above ground, such as your second floor, attic, or roof. Destroy all access up (axe the stairs, knock down ladders, etc.) Basments are not reccommened, as they can lead to suffocation or death due to collapse. A panic room might be okay for short-term outbreaks (no more than a month).
3: Huddle down, remain vigilant, etc.
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Post by The King Of Scots on Oct 26, 2007 18:39:43 GMT
Heres mine:
Scenario: Outside with my friends when a zombie stumbles towards us
Solution:
As said previous times I would head to the local Gadget shop to get pellet guns (they would do SOME damage) And then to the local army cadet centre to get REAL guns (Which i have training in) afterwards i would keep moving.
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Post by Kan on Oct 26, 2007 19:14:27 GMT
Heres one.
Scenario: you are in your home, in your bed and a loved on or something as be zombiefied as you slept. You wake up to a zombie stumbling towards you, or hovering over you.
Solution:
If you're leg are available, kick-push the zombie away and get out of the bed, and grab your blanket or whatever. As the zombie heads towards you again, throw the blanket over it's head and get behind it, and grab the blanket as so it is around the whole of the head. Push it down onto the ground and assume the neck snapping position, the blanket, protecting you from getting the infection from a bite, and snap the zombie's neck, the blanket also add for protection from the rare blood spurt as the neck is snapped, assuming the zombiefying wound is a riped out neck or so.
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Post by Rakk on Oct 26, 2007 19:46:07 GMT
I finally found Cleons original post from way back in February 2006. Where fo you think is the best place to hole up against zombies. it could be anywhere, and be a general place, like any mall, or a specific place, like a certain castle or whatever. I think its Alcatraz, the island prison in San Francisco. For one thing, the rip tides in the area Alctraz is located are very strong, which is why the prison was placed there. You can only get there by boat, too. George Romero's Land Of The Dead taught us that zombies can walk underwater, but I belive that with the strong rip tides and long distance to the island, zombies would lose direction and go the wrong way, which would allow time for survivors to raid the coast for supplies. oh, and respect other's opinions, don't spam, yadda, yadda, yadda Discuss...
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Post by grigori on Oct 26, 2007 20:02:16 GMT
I say the best spot is any big-box dealer, specifically Wal-Mart. This may seem like a stupid decision, but when you think about it it really isn't. The most obvious advantage is the gigantic stockpile of supplies the building has, ands the sheer variety. From canned goods to hardware to planting seeds to firearms, the store has literally everything a good survivalist could ever want. The second is proximity to supplies. Such big box stores often congregate near each other to form large shopping centers. Going only a few hundred meters can yield everything from office supplies to construction equipment, and chances are you have one within 10 minutes away.
Lastly, such stores are often fairly defendable. This may not be initially apparent, but big box stores in particular often have only one entrance, with everything alse either inside or fenced off like the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. This is to prevent theft from people who want to get even lower low, low prices, and chances are if it keeps criminals out it'll keep zombies out. The one glass entrance can be barricaded, or even bricked up entirley if you so choose. It'll take a little longer, but it's not like you don't have the supplies. If you're really lucky, your Wal-Mart has an attached Garden Center and Auto Center, giving you both a food supply and the ability to maintain your transportation.
Yeah, prisons and oil rigs and castles are all probably more defendable choices, but where the hell would you find one? And wouldn't you eventually wind up at Wal-Mart eventually?
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Post by Kan on Oct 26, 2007 23:57:46 GMT
But think about the fact that a large majority of people will think the best place to go will be walmart, and if there is a panic before it all happens then there will not be much if anything left, not to mention riots and stealing, and you run the possibility that you will run into a large group of people in which there are bound to be infected peeps.
So no Walmart is not a good choice, on the other hand a pawn shop is, atleast better than a walmart, as they are normally barred up, and attached to several other types of businesses.
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Post by grigori on Oct 27, 2007 0:42:12 GMT
I'm not really too worried about other people during the zombocalypse. Yeah, panic would be prevalent, but panicked people aren't likely to hide. They're likely to run. The only people who would take cover in a place like Wal-Mart would probably be people who'd stopped and thought it through. The rest would be heading north (or south, if they're really stupid). There would be a major problem with looting, but that's a problem that can be solved by fortifying and keeping anyone not already in out. It may be a solution a lot of people don't like (I know I wouldn't like to do it), but it would probably work.
As for your pawn shop being better than Wal-Mart... if anything, I think that might be a very unsafe place to be. I can think of plenty of people who would go to a pawn shop first... the kind of people who are gonna want a gun. The kind of people who are willing to shoot you if you get in their way. It'd be hard to hold down a place like that.
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Post by Rakk on Oct 30, 2007 3:26:07 GMT
I like the Oil Rig idea, but getting there would be a bitch, and if it is already inhabited or infected, then it would be a bitch to clear or convince them you are safe and not some psychopath.
Prisons... I'd rather not break into a prison during a zombpocalypse. Or at any point in time really.
So of course there are always the mountains, but I would not go there unless I knew the area really well, or was an experienced outdoorsman. And getting there would be a problem.
so the problem is getting anywhere ahead of the horde is a mass panic and clogged roads (I could see people getting stuck in traffic between two infestations/hordes), where the horde/infestation is of course (un)dead.
So how the hell would you get anywhere, sure you may have a boat, but unless you have your own dock then you are probably screwed getting to it. Cars would be useless as the dead can probably break through the windows or wait until you die in your car. Airplanes and Helicopters would be nice, but getting to/operating them might be a problem.
If I had to go north, then I would go to Nunavut and keep going until it is frozen all year round or so. If I had to go south... I would... uh... not go. (a. Large populations of people, b. not speaking spanish might get in the way of communication, and did I mention lots and lots of people?) East... no thanks even more people and miles, and miles, and miles of road and lots of infestation. So West and out to tropical islands it is I guess. Find a small Pacific Island, possibly with a small settlement but only if I could see alive non-undead people there. If I saw a settlement but no people I would not land there unless I HAD to, as the undead are probably lurking there or thereabouts. And one with no people probably means it is uninhabitable.
So long story short, I would rather camp out and try to turn my house into a fortress of humanity, and if that fails HARMANity.
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Post by Ms. Cleo on Oct 30, 2007 4:22:39 GMT
Strange I don't remember making a thread like this. =/
I mean, I remember the "Would you let zombies eat you alive" and "Best fortresses" ones but not this. Aww well, umm I think the best thing to do would be to like, umm....
A zombie walks towards you.
You run the other way.
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Post by Rakk on Oct 30, 2007 4:34:18 GMT
Well this is a knock off of your fortress one. But with more of a "How to survive" outlook.
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Post by Ms. Cleo on Oct 30, 2007 5:53:54 GMT
I'm already straight, my house is built above ground level and is designed in such a way that the entrances can be blocked off easily (the doors are adjacent to steps so dropping in a couch or two will reinforce the doors to no end, and the garage door could be blocked off with my van, preventing leverage. Then to enter and exit we'd use the balcony.
But overcrowding would be a problem thanks to my goddamn humanitarianism...so the almighty DEL AMO FASHION CENTER (as made famous by Quentin Tarantino) would be the best option!
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