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Post by grigori on Jul 11, 2007 4:05:02 GMT
What you're suggesting is kind of caught in a sort of Catch 22. If you make it too ineffective, it's deemed useless and gets shot down. If it's anywhere near worth using, it's too griefy and it gets... shot... down...
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Post by Lina on Jul 13, 2007 9:56:07 GMT
What you're suggesting is kind of caught in a sort of Catch 22. If you make it too ineffective, it's deemed useless and gets shot down. If it's anywhere near worth using, it's too griefy and it gets... shot... down... Can't have a criminal without it being able to steal~ |
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Post by grigori on Jul 13, 2007 18:14:22 GMT
What you're suggesting is kind of caught in a sort of Catch 22. If you make it too ineffective, it's deemed useless and gets shot down. If it's anywhere near worth using, it's too griefy and it gets... shot... down... Can't have a criminal without it being able to steal~ That's kind of the premise behind the looting skill. Why would a criminal go through the effort to steal something when he can just take shit? |
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Post by Lina on Jul 14, 2007 4:49:55 GMT
Can't have a criminal without it being able to steal~ That's kind of the premise behind the looting skill. Why would a criminal go through the effort to steal something when he can just take shit? What if he can't "take shit"?  |
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Post by grigori on Jul 14, 2007 4:57:58 GMT
I'm talking about searching for things and looting. You might have noticed there's a whole lot of stuff lying around in Malton, just ripe for the taking.
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Post by Lina on Jul 14, 2007 22:38:43 GMT
I'm talking about searching for things and looting. You might have noticed there's a whole lot of stuff lying around in Malton, just ripe for the taking. Not a thing, since I live on the streets. |
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Post by King Jager III on Jul 15, 2007 2:05:42 GMT
10% isn't really much...it could always be 5%, or 1%. I have this one GBA game, chance to recruit a godly enemy is 1%. I got that a few times. Demikids? BOT: Criminals might work with the whole pickpocket thingy mayhaps, by success with "Pickpocketing" the criminal gains a randomly determined item (the good stuff sould be harder to get) and this gains the criminal XP. However, as the criminal would require someone/something to pickpocket from, there is always the consideration of attacking them instead, should they be proficient, or stealing if they're not. also the pickpocted individual could always attack the pickpocketer and gain XP from it too! |
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Post by kain703805 on Jul 24, 2007 16:41:15 GMT
I dont think that cops would care about the law while zombies are about
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Post by Scorpio on Jul 24, 2007 16:46:20 GMT
Even if nobody cares, criminal acts are still criminal.
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Post by Kan on Jul 24, 2007 16:49:46 GMT
Must not bitch slap newbie. Must not bitch slap newbie. Must not bitch slap newbie.
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Post by grigori on Jul 24, 2007 16:55:31 GMT
I dont think that cops would care about the law while zombies are about With the emphasis on bounty-hunting in this game, I'd have to say I disagree. On a side note, I'm thinking of putting this up on the wiki very soon. It's finally got a complete skill set, and I think most everything's sorted out correctly. |
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Post by Khallos on Jul 25, 2007 12:28:48 GMT
Must not bitch slap newbie. Must not bitch slap newbie. Must not bitch slap newbie. *bitchslaps Kainian* Dude, you've posted that in like every thread I've read today. Shut up, seriously. *clears throat* Anyway, Heh, go ahead, Grig, although I'm afraid i think it probably wont do very well x.x this would be a buttload of extra work for Kevan for a start, and I've seen interesting ideas like this shot down for just that reason. Secondly, it would be adding a whole new class and fundamentally changing the game. Whats more, all the new crims would be lvl 1, while a lot of people already playing the game are maxed out level 40 +'s... which means that either the crims are going to get mashed, or we're going to have to d what Bitefight did and reset EVERYBODY down to level 1. And did we ever sort out what happens to dead crims? Turning into zombies doesn't really seem fair on the survivors. |
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Post by grigori on Jul 25, 2007 18:33:23 GMT
Yeah, they'll turn into zeds. It's fair because there aren't a whole lot f zeds anyways, and the game really should have uneven odds towards survivors anyways.
I think you make a good point in that most crims would be killed very quickly, and be unable to defend themselves early on. In fact, that's the biggest irony in this entire suggestion. But, somehow, I think they'll manage. After all, being a newbie is hard all over, and though criminals have two sides trying to kill them, they're also extremely powerful and if they managed to stay alive, leveling would be quite easy. Though I do think the problem you stated is serious and that if anybody has any ideas on how to fix it, it would be appreciated.
As for the wiki voters... I think they can suck it up. It would be quite a bit of work for Kevan, but there are many ideas in PR that are just as, if not more, complicated.
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Post by kain703805 on Jul 25, 2007 21:13:15 GMT
but this would ecorage pking
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Post by Scorpio on Jul 25, 2007 21:14:59 GMT
but this would ecorage pking We know. It's great ain't it? |
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Post by grigori on Jul 25, 2007 21:59:56 GMT
but this would ecorage pking Have you read any of this? Really? |
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Post by Kan on Jul 25, 2007 22:02:24 GMT
Oh my god, please don't let this guy stick around, he's an idiot.
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Post by grigori on Jul 25, 2007 22:04:38 GMT
Oh my god, please don't let this guy stick around, he's an idiot. I won't let you stick around if you keep flaming. Being active doesn't make you exempt from the rules, though you likely haven't even read them in their entirety. I recommend the both of you do that before I started getting my mod on. |
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Post by Kan on Jul 25, 2007 22:09:14 GMT
Sry Grig, I got blinded with activness. And anger.
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Post by grigori on Jul 25, 2007 22:10:58 GMT
Sry Grig, I got blinded with activness. And anger. S'alright. |
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Post by grigori on Jul 27, 2007 20:39:01 GMT
This is now officially on the wiki.
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Post by Ty on Jul 28, 2007 0:02:39 GMT
Would you mind linking to it? I'm feeling too lazy to go find it myself.
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Post by grigori on Jul 28, 2007 0:12:31 GMT
I had to withdraw it to the talk page, as it was getting some negative reception on the basis it wasn't finished. I'll link to the page as soon as I put it up again.
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Post by Kan on Jul 30, 2007 18:11:52 GMT
And it was Pwn3d!
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Post by Scorpio on Jul 30, 2007 19:44:18 GMT
Like you could do better Kan.
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Post by Kan on Jul 30, 2007 19:46:58 GMT
Of course not.
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Post by Scorpio on Jul 30, 2007 19:48:16 GMT
Then cut the pawned talk.
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Post by bobotalkclown on Aug 21, 2007 16:07:51 GMT
I think it should just be a class, and there should only be a few skills...
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Post by grigori on Aug 21, 2007 18:16:40 GMT
I think it should just be a class, and there should only be a few skills... As do most people. Which is why this suggestion is dead in the water. Anybody who wants to has my permission to do just that, but I won't change my suggestion. |
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Post by silver333 on Sept 11, 2007 3:28:25 GMT
Sounds cool, but I would suggest renameing it from criminal, to psycopath.
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